Defrag Blog

Web 3.blecccch

by Eric Norlin on Oct.04, 2007, under defrag "theory", general

Fred Wilson and Josh Kopelman take Jason Calacanis to task (if ever so slightly) over his definition of “Web 3.0″:

“Web 3.0 is defined as the creation of high-quality content and services produced by gifted individuals using Web 2.0 technology as an enabling platform.”

Blecch! If *that* is the next “version” of innovation (even if it is simply iterative), then I’m getting out of the tech industry and going into trucking or something, because just about anything sounds spicier than that. Wow.

Thankfully, Josh and Fred point to the “implicit web” as a starting point — and Josh, rightfully, speaks to the implicit web’s somewhat opaque definition.

Hey, I agree. From day zero of Defrag, Brad and I have been circling around definitions and ways of describing, and we’ve both arrived at some “standard” ways of talking about things that we think are implicit web-worthy. But even now, you can hear the subtle differences in the way Brad speaks about it and the way I speak about it — and that’s precisely how we want it.

Defrag (cue standard self-promotion) is all about us wanting to bring a group of really smart folks together to A) define the space and B) start working on the problem sets. Yes, we’re coming in with some presuppositions, but not so many that the group can’t take the whole shebang in a different direction if it so chooses. In one sense, Defrag is like one giant product management/feedback/focus group session for multiple vendors — all of whom are working on a *piece* of the Implicit problem.

Fred and Josh — will you be joining us? ;-)

3 comments for this entry:
  1. jason

    Defrager,

    Obviously Fred and Brad are going to circle their wagons around the semantic web… but we both know in their heart of hearts they believe in art and expertise. :-)

    best,

    J

  2. Are you grasping what the heck Web 3.0 is going to be all about? | BoldlyGoing.com

    [...] However, for me, I’ve been wondering what the hell defrag “really” is to be about, as well as that concept of implicit web. All I can say is that if you are not “getting it” just keep receiving it. Subscribe to this site, and Jason’s feed, and Fred and Josh’s as well as others. Eventually all of the nebulous concepts will gel and you’ll get it. [...]

  3. James D Kirk

    Ah, Eric, you self serving bast…

    Ha, just kidding of course. Today was my “uh huh” moment. I guess it actually started yesterday with Jason’s rather simplistic attempt to get the 3.0 definition space going. I can only imagine he now gets tons of back links and juice from that post and declaration. And that’s cool, don’t get me wrong.

    However, for me, I’ve been wondering what the hell defrag “really” is to be about, as well as that concept of implicit web. All I can say is that if you are not “getting it” just keep receiving it. Subscribe to this site, and Jason’s feed, and Fred and Josh’s as well as others. Eventually all of the nebulous concepts will gel and you’ll get it.

    Of course, just like college algebra and trig, you’ll probably lose the concept pretty quickly! (I still don’t know how I passed those classes!) But continuing to read about it from various sources will add layer upon layer of knowledgeable understanding.

    At least I think it does so for me! Thanks for the great post Eric.

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